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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #225 on: October 11, 2008, 07:42:44 PM »
7 hundred billion.


i think we should stop giving money to the rich.  i say let it all burn.

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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #226 on: October 12, 2008, 12:55:50 AM »
7 hundred billion.


i think we should stop giving money to the rich.  i say let it all burn.


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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #227 on: October 12, 2008, 03:33:00 AM »
I'm waiting for the Asian and Australian markets to open before judging how things will go this week. However I feel my fears might be true and that is nothing can stop the momentum into oblivion.

The US futures by the end of the week was down 228 points, and this G7 emergency summit seems to be all talk about what they should do, but with no specific explanation on how to achieve it. But even if they do something worthwhile, there's still a near 1 quadrillion (or 1,000 trillion) dollars worth of derivatives waiting to explode and once it does, the global economy will collapse into oblivion, as losses may exceed global GDP in amount. Buffett even warned about this problem of derivatives back in 2003:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2817995.stm

So literally nothing can stop the global economic collapse if you factor in this issue too, any measure introduced that doesn't address the derivatives will only slow down the death spiral by stalling it for a bit (at best case), and make long-term consequences more severe. The only option left is to literally suspend all global stock markets for a few weeks and initiate emergency talks to tackle this key problem and implement solutions immediately to deflate the derivatives amount, stop further derivatives being made and basically soften the impact to the people, I just don't see any other option left.
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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #228 on: October 12, 2008, 07:01:38 AM »
7 hundred billion.


i think we should stop giving money to the rich.  i say let it all burn.


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Are you after anarchy then?
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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #229 on: October 12, 2008, 09:09:10 AM »
Temporary anarchy or permanent?
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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #230 on: October 12, 2008, 10:50:16 AM »
If it's temporary it isn't anarchy.
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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #231 on: October 12, 2008, 04:05:49 PM »
I'd like to see the world stock market suspended because it's bullshit but what's going to happen to all the people who'd lose their jobs as a result?

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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #232 on: October 12, 2008, 05:08:59 PM »
Just my own little bet, for the sake of fun...I think the late rally on Friday is an indicator of a rally on open, on Monday. Remember, it's been 8 straight days of losses. Is anyone here a speculator? Or all fundamentals?

My husband and I have a few shares of a handful of stocks, which we bought years ago.

Overall, they are down 20% from when we bought them and down 40% from their high, so I wouldn't say that we are very good speculators, if we are speculators.

Well I was meaning speculators as investors with a short term view, such as day traders or people that trade frequently, such as 20 times a month or more.

I still think you and your husband could in part be referred to as speculators, depending on how the decision was made to purchase the particular stocks. If the decision was made based on analysing the company balance sheet and financial ratios, for the sake of assessing the companies long term risk, then that is what you can call fundamental analysis. Fundamental analysis is about taking the long term view, and is the furthest decision making process from gambling. On the other end you have technical analysis, which is watching the day-to-day movements, and making very short term decisions. Sometimes company financial data is altogether ignored. It should be said that these two strategies exist along a spectrum, depending on the individual investors goals and desires.

I doubt very many, if any, stocks are not at least ~40% down from their most recent highs. Gold might be an exception. So I would not be concerned about making a poor investment decision on that information alone, in your case (If you were). Anyways, I don't want to get into assumptions.
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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #233 on: October 12, 2008, 06:40:46 PM »

You already have.
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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #234 on: October 13, 2008, 06:02:25 PM »
Stocks up today.
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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #235 on: October 14, 2008, 12:02:44 AM »
Fuck the economy! I'm putting all of money into tangible goods!!!!!!
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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #236 on: October 14, 2008, 03:24:04 AM »

You already have.

Ha. Well trying to avoid making too many is what I should have said.

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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #237 on: October 14, 2008, 04:47:17 AM »

You already have.

Ha. Well trying to avoid making too many is what I should have said.

You know what they sat about assumptions - it makes an "Ass" out of "U" and "mption" --  or something like that.

Oh, nevermind. I'm confused. It seems like such a clever thing to say at first.

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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #238 on: October 14, 2008, 08:40:19 AM »
It makes an ass out of "u" and "me".

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Re: $700,000,000,000.00
« Reply #239 on: October 14, 2008, 09:03:15 AM »
It makes an ass out of "u" and "me".

Assume makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'me'! :P
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