Green is good, but how do we RE-educate others about BULLSHIT GREEN!

[odeon]

exactly.   

and  for starting the discussion.

Ya know, even so-called, "uncivilised" American Indians had a better grasp of this issue, three or four hundred years ago, than most people today.

They weren't uncivilised.

[odeon]

funny how we call the industrialised world "civilised", and tribal/indigenous peoples "savages" or "developing", isn't it?

It's not funny at all. I think it's fucking awful.

[Lucifer]

funny how we call the industrialised world "civilised", and tribal/indigenous peoples "savages" or "developing", isn't it?

It's not funny at all. I think it's fucking awful.

i was being un-aspie by using irony, dear heart. 

[ozymandias]

funny how we call the industrialised world "civilised", and tribal/indigenous peoples "savages" or "developing", isn't it?

It's not funny at all. I think it's fucking awful.

i was being un-aspie by using irony, dear heart. 

You are being more truthful than ironic!

[Lucifer]

that too, sadly. 

[DirtDawg]

exactly.   

and  for starting the discussion.

Ya know, even so-called, "uncivilised" American Indians had a better grasp of this issue, three or four hundred years ago, than most people today.

They weren't uncivilised.

Of course not! I have a great deal of respect and a deep feeling of loss at what untold wonders "white-eyes"  may have destroyed as he blanketed this unspoiled land with his greed.

[ozymandias]

exactly.   

and  for starting the discussion.

Ya know, even so-called, "uncivilised" American Indians had a better grasp of this issue, three or four hundred years ago, than most people today.

They weren't uncivilised.

Of course not! I have a great deal of respect and a deep feeling of loss at what untold wonders "white-eyes"  may have destroyed as he blanketed this unspoiled land with his greed.

 

[ProfessorFarnsworth]

Like it or not, humanity is the dominant species of this ecosystem, as such I would expect the ecosystem to change to suit our needs...This would be merely be a symptom.

Doesn't always work like that. A species can also sometimes become a pest, and threaten the destruction of the entire ecology it affects by it's overpopulation and over consumption of resources. Humanity is basically one of the most dangerous ones of them all, as it's influence is global.

[odeon]

 

I think I did my share of AS Things here...

[ozymandias]

I am still trying to figure out why somebody tossed a new and intact toilet seat and cover 10 feet into the woods.   It was never used and was clean.  So I brought it to the dump store and left it there.      I'v seen some strange things left by the roadside, but, that has to be the strangest yet. 

[DirtDawg]

I think I did my share of AS Things here...

Same here. I started out pissed as hell again about the meaningless, impalpable shit the present shortsighted system is teaching in schools and ended up aggravating my sorrow for the endless misery intentionally perpetrated upon the American natives.

[ozymandias]

The bottom line is, if we all did our parts with intelligence and full knowledge.  We wouldn't be having this discussion!

[Pyraxis]

I think I did my share of AS Things here...

Same here. I started out pissed as hell again about the meaningless, impalpable shit the present shortsighted system is teaching in schools and ended up aggravating my sorrow for the endless misery intentionally perpetrated upon the American natives.

Hm. Does that mean global thinking wasn't a good idea?

[Lucifer]

i know it's practically trite now, but that's when the phrase "think global; act local" actually means something.

or just two words: responsibility and justice.

[Peter]

exactly.   

and  for starting the discussion.

Ya know, even so-called, "uncivilised" American Indians had a better grasp of this issue, three or four hundred years ago, than most people today.

They weren't uncivilised.

I wouldn't count many cultures back then as having been civilised.  Most American Indian tribes had a nasty custom of torturing their prisoners to death, and the white settlers of the era were happily importing slaves, burning witches and murdering each other in cock-swinging contests.  The world in general was a brutal and cruel place at that time.