Hand in your Geek Card. What movies are a must see?

[Lucifer]

any chance of taking the cinematic stand-off to the call out forum?

[GalileoAce]

Lucifer I don't think that's possible... Films and the enjoyment of them is so tied to opinion that there is little to no evidence to back up someone's opinion, therefore a call out would be nigh impossible.

[Lucifer]

good point.   

however, i do believe there's a way of defending one's opinion by arguing the merits (or not) of aspects of a film/book/play etc., which the argument above doesn't appear to do, not to me, anyway.

that's why words like "good", "boring", "brilliant" etc. are banned in my writing classes - they tell us nothing about the film/book etc. apart from a subjective opinion.  if someone can back up that opinion with reasoning, evidence and qualification, that's fine.

[GalileoAce]

good point.   

however, i do believe there's a way of defending one's opinion by arguing the merits (or not) of aspects of a film/book/play etc., which the argument above doesn't appear to do, not to me, anyway.

that's why words like "good", "boring", "brilliant" etc. are banned in my writing classes - they tell us nothing about the film/book etc. apart from a subjective opinion.  if someone can back up that opinion with reasoning, evidence and qualification, that's fine.

Yes that would be an interesting callout thread...Sadly I don't think many people on here are capable of such.

[Lucifer]

i am!  but then, what i know about films wouldn't take up much bandwidth. 

[odeon]

Lucifer I don't think that's possible... Films and the enjoyment of them is so tied to opinion that there is little to no evidence to back up someone's opinion, therefore a call out would be nigh impossible.

My whole point. No need for further argument, IMO.

[GalileoAce]

i am!  but then, what i know about films wouldn't take up much bandwidth. 

You're one out of...?

Like I said, not many.

[Al Swearegen]

good point.   

however, i do believe there's a way of defending one's opinion by arguing the merits (or not) of aspects of a film/book/play etc., which the argument above doesn't appear to do, not to me, anyway.

that's why words like "good", "boring", "brilliant" etc. are banned in my writing classes - they tell us nothing about the film/book etc. apart from a subjective opinion.  if someone can back up that opinion with reasoning, evidence and qualification, that's fine.

Agreed! The defending of values and principle of such would I imagine get very heated and VERY funny for onlookers.

[Nocturnalist!]

Want a *serious* discussion about film? Get rid of the holier-than-thou attitude.

Or discuss it with somebody who actually wishes to discuss... unlike you. Go take a running jump, Odeon... it is you who made this an issue.

I'm not about to engage in a pissing contest with you as to who has seen the more films or not... talk about irrelevant.

[Nocturnalist!]

any chance of taking the cinematic stand-off to the call out forum?

Hey, I was just suggesting a handful of films that I consider 'must see'... its Odeon who has the problem and caused one. Why he cannot just accept that I've simply posted what I have... I do not know.

Has he posted a 'must see' selection in this thread yet? I wouldn't have treated his selection like he has treated mine. Very ignorant and unnecessary of him.

[GalileoAce]

Topic lost

[GalileoAce]

any chance of taking the cinematic stand-off to the call out forum?

Hey, I was just suggesting a handful of films that I consider 'must see'... its Odeon who has the problem and caused one. Why he cannot just accept that I've simply posted what I have... I do not know.

Has he posted a 'must see' selection in this thread yet? I wouldn't have treated his selection like he has treated mine. Very ignorant and unnecessary of him.

I believe it was the way you posted your must sees.

[Nocturnalist!]

that's why words like "good", "boring", "brilliant" etc. are banned in my writing classes - they tell us nothing about the film/book etc. apart from a subjective opinion.  if someone can back up that opinion with reasoning, evidence and qualification, that's fine.

Fine by me. I'm up for that so long as Odeon starts a thread with his rationale and I can actually read exactly what he is getting at. Otherwise its a bit of an open question for me and I might miss the matters he has the problems with.

He's the guy who has problems with my selection in the first place after all. If it is not important enough for him to do this, then perhaps in future it would be wiser for him to stay silent rather than launch into assumptions about my motivation in suggesting titles as 'must see'.

[Nocturnalist!]

I believe it was the way you posted your must sees.

Here's my original must see post...

Playing my Nerd card rather than my Geek card...

Everybody should watch 'Citizen Kane'.

Everybody should also watch 'Vertigo', 'A touch of Evil', 'Psycho' and 'Peeping Tom'.

I could probably list hundreds of other movies everybody should watch... but Nerdish rather than Geekish.

What did I do wrong?

[Phlexor]

But that's the thing, chill out. I mean the Star Wars prequels were listed and most people jump on that shit and bag it out. Me personally, I like the films, they aren't the best films ever made or probably anywhere near it, but I enjoy the story, the characters and the universe it's set in. I'm a fan.

I think there are many different aspects of a film to appreciate and you don't have to like all of them. For some though, I guess any of these can be deal breakers and that's cool too, for them.

Sure it hurts when someone attacks something you like. It almost feels personal too, but that isn't a reason to attack back. It's time to agree to disagree or admit you like/dislike those films for different reasons.

_{(Edited to make more sense 'cos I can't type for shit obviously).}